Any system, either open or closed, if energy is applied, entropy is increased as it goes to equilibrium (take note of the equilibrium). As entropy increases, disorder increases. That’s the basic science that evolutionists try to deny. While it is true that not all entropy means disorder, such notion is not observed in the thermodynamics of living systems (take note again of the living systems).
What you’re trying to imply here is that since (as you insist) that the earth is an open system and 2nd law of thermodynamics applies only to closed systems then evolution is not ruled out by (or exempted from) the 2nd law, and that is guaranteed by the continuous supply of solar energy. This is a confused conclusion.
I was implying, on the other hand, (that’s the reason I was invoking the principle of work, which evolutionists completely forget or maybe don’t know) that the continuous supply of solar energy is not enough to invoke that an open system such as the earth could maintain far from equilibrium. This energy must be directed to do work. Why? The Gibb’s free energy of high complex system is very high compared to their simple precursors. This is the physical reason why simplicity cannot proceed to complexity spontaneously. So how do living systems survive then? The solar energy is converted by plants into chemical energy as food which we eat. But that energy is assimilated by the complex function of the complex structure of the human body. And this complex function is directed by the information that is in the DNA.
I summarize, energy is not enough. It must be directed and that instruction is in the DNA.
I reiterate, there are NO observed phenomena that add information to existing DNA, and added or “discovered” function is not equivalent to added information, as I again emphasize to you, that added DNA (or large DNA for that matter) does not mean more information. Take Epulopiscium fishelsoni, the world’s largest bacterium. It is half a millimetre long and weighs in at a million times the mass of a typical bacterium. In fact no one believed it was a bacterium until genetic tests proved it. And it has a whopping 25x as much DNA as a human cell. BUT the poor is still a……… bacterium.
Added information would guarantee more complex structures that can change an individual organism from its previous state and that should be passed to off-springs. This is the phenomenon that evolution must prove to exist since there is NONE.
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Welcome to YA, I see it’s your first day. Pretty heavy stuff to start with, don’t you think? Your friend sounds like a real “fun guy.”
Ask your question in YA “Society & Culture / Religion & Spirituality”.
People there just drool over questions like this.
1. entropy increases in closed AND open systems? Is this true? I learned that in an open system (energy can come in) entropy may in fact decrease.
2. Even in a closed system, the TENDENCY is towards entropy, but every time ice forms, entropy is decreased (order increases) and that happens all over the planet every day.
3. the energy is directed to do work by living organisms.
4. there were steps b4 DNA, amino acids have been found in orbit around other planets. It may have gotten here and then formed into more complexe molecules.
5. “Information” in this context is meaningless. There is no definition of what is being added to DNA when an evolution denier says “no information can be added”.
One of the greatest Creationist lies is their distortion of information theory. Although there are a number of established measures for genetic information, Creationists discard them in favor of a general denial.
If the energy input to the biosphere is insufficient, not only does evolution stop, but life does. There is no cell duplication, which is a doubling of information.
The bacterium you describe has a polygenome — 100,000-200,000 copies of the genome to support the large cell. This phenomenon is seen in other large cells. The giant amoeba has thousands of chromosomes with mutiple copies of genes. The paramecium macronucleus is multiple copies of the micronucleus which is involved in reproduction. These cells most definitely has a high information content since they is generating mRNA to support their vast volumes.
Although Creationist assert that there is no mechanism to add information, they never define the term information. Cell duplication creates two copies. That is a doubling of information (although without novel content). From there, a point mutation is sufficient to create novel information. Point mutations are information increasing.
As mutations have been shown to increase function, the whole tirade is moot.
http://www.pnas.org/content/98/20/11388.abstract